• 1984@lemmy.today
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    12 小时前

    It works for some people, so its useful. You can call it pseudo science if you want, nobody cares if its science. They just want something that works.

    • Absurdly Stupid @lemmy.world
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      12 小时前

      “it works for some people”

      So does lobotomy

      So does electroshock therapy

      So does sleep deprivation

      So does solitary confinement

      So does brain washing

      … and so on. They all “work for some people”. They are all “useful”.

      Not a good barometer for success. Your logic is horrifying.

      None of the aforementioned should be a tool of the state (including AA)

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        2 小时前

        My logic is just fine. Im wondering how yours are, if you think science is the only way to understand if something is useful to a human being.

        The entire field of spirituality and religion is very important for a lot of people because it gives them meaning. Science would say thats just useless. I disagree. It has a lot of meaning for a lot of people.

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        Doing nothing doesn’t do a damn thing. It should be one tool in a toolbox. AA is not like the other things on there, just like CBT isn’t like those things, just like medication isn’t like those things. GP1s just landed in the medication toolbox. Addiction is incredibly complex and includes a spiritual component. If you don’t like how the program does it, go start your own alcohol treatment protocol, hell a global network of meetings and instant support, and see how far you get. I’m super eager to see it.