North Korea, Venezuela, the USSR during the Cold War, East Germany, heck even China (I know on good authority) all have had people flee and many of the above nations had to put up literal barriers to try and stop the fleeing.

……why? Isn’t socialism supposed to be the end-means ultimate utopian model society that all should strive for proudly? Why would anyone want to flee that for the “evil dregs” of capitalism?

Help me make sense of this.

  • Nickel≡x(φmod7919)@lemmy.todayOPMEnglish
    14·
    8 days ago

    Maybe it’s not, but the US is awesome and the best country in the world. Which is why so many people wanna come here. Also, just know that Lemmy is gonna really really hate you if you don’t automatically think the US is capitalist and totally evil. lol

    • FridaySteve@lemmy.worldbanned_from_community_badgeEnglish
      3·
      8 days ago

      Well especially in the countries you mentioned, folks come here because there’s a high social floor compared to back home and it’s relatively easy to get in because we do our agriculture in-house. That doesn’t describe a capitalist nation and it doesn’t mean there’s anything special about America. America is as capitalist as China is socialist.

          • Nickel≡x(φmod7919)@lemmy.todayOPMEnglish
            13·
            8 days ago

            I like it here. I’m not disagreeing with you, I am just pointing out that since you are going against the majority Lemmy groupthink, that you may get some pushback.

            I’m all for pushing back against Lemmy groupthink tho, so I don’t have an issue with you. :)

            • FridaySteve@lemmy.worldbanned_from_community_badgeEnglish
              4·
              8 days ago

              Why did you come here though in the first place? What do you do other than post ragebait about US politics?

              • Nickel≡x(φmod7919)@lemmy.todayOPMEnglish
                15·
                8 days ago

                What makes you think I am ragebaiting? So because I post something you don’t agree with, it’s ragebait? So did Trump get voted in as president as ragebait? OR maybe, just maybe, people think and believe differently than you.

                Do you think alternative political voices should be silenced?

                How an it be “ragebait” if I posted a conservative-themed question to a conservative-themed community?! If you are here, and you’re not conservative and posting stuff, wouldn’t it be you who is playing the ragebait game?

                • FridaySteve@lemmy.worldbanned_from_community_badgeEnglish
                  4·
                  8 days ago

                  So the answer is yes, you came here to have endless pointless arguments. When do you leave?

                  • Nickel≡x(φmod7919)@lemmy.todayOPMEnglish
                    12·
                    7 days ago

                    Actually YOU came here to have endless pointless. This is a conservative community and I post things relating to conservatives. You’re not a conservative, so you’re the one who’s ragebaiting and just trying to argue.

                    When do you leave?