There can be an unlimited no. of connections (or peers). Remember the bittorrent days, where you could seed to and download files from many peers simultaneously? You can do the same with data streams, f.ex. video and audio. Try Keet if you want to see a practical example.

We don’t need data centres to share files, chat, do video calls, live streaming, etc.

If I’m having a video meeting p2p instead of microsoft teams running in the cloud, that would reduce power consumption, not increase it.

How about reducing our dependence on data centres by using software that is more peer to peer and local first etc?

Of course some data centres have legitimate use cases, such as big data analysis on weather and climate data etc, but building huge data centres for social media and running everything in the cloud is silly from an environmental perspective

Reminds me of this classic

Luckily some people actually do! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-yzFxpQLgs

PostmarketOS is not quite there yet to be daily driveable imo, I’m tinkering with it on a Oneplus 6T. But some enthusiasts do daily drive it - and it’s getting better and better!

P2P + IoT could be great for safety and privacy. We should just remove the middle men (datacentres, servers) so that data travels between the devices you own, and not via some data vampire trying to get in the way.

Just try and see for yourself. Like I said, only tried Keet. Features

• Share files as big as you like, 2m, 2g, 2t, doesn’t matter
• Windows, linux, ios, android
• Groups, dm’s, broadcast feed
• No phone number or email needed, add by alias/link/qr
• Unlimited call quality since theres no server in between or throttling
• Share emojis, gifs, videos (no stickers or self-destruct atm)

I’ve been using Keet for a couple of months now, really like it. Still in beta, but you can ask questions to the devs in the open chat rooms and they actually give you sound answers

Also there’s Jami which looks good, but haven’t tested it

Update: I just came across Jami, which actually seems to check all the boxes! Libre, open source, videocalls/conferences, unrestricted traffic/quality, secure, p2p, available on all major platforms, etc etc. Even additional functionality such as recording.

Time to do some testing! Also, thanks for all the info in previous post

I want to communicate with others in a way that is privacy friendly, gives a good user experience and gives me control of my data. Tox seems good, but most of my friends and family have iphones, and none of the clients support that. Today they use Whatsapp, Messenger, etc. Signal would be a big improvement, but as far as I can tell it is still centralized and wants your phone number.

Maybe XMPP can work, I will check that out.

P2P caught my interest because of the possibilities that opens up when you remove the middle-man/server (even better call quality, no file size limits). But it doesn’t have to be P2P - I’m just a fan of “local first”, decentralization and democratization of technology in general.

I already listed my reasons for wanting to try out/use it, and they have nothing to do with crypto or micropayments.

If you can name alternatives with similar functionality made by people who are not affiliated with crypto, I’m all ears. Briar seems great for journalists and activists etc, but it is too limited to be used as a mainstream messenger for keeping in touch with friends and family. Seems like all you can do is send text and emojis, no video chat or photos.

Another interesting option https://holesail.io/

Seems like they’ve got that covered

I’m no crypto fan or plan on using micropayments either, but if I don’t use it, where’s the harm?

So far battery and data usage is ok, but we’ll see after some more testing

I’m testing syncing, notification and battery usage now on a few devices to see how it behaves. So far, so good. It also lets you specify which type of user you are inviting, so that admins does the heavy lifting

My bad, on the Pears homepage it says “Join the open-source P2P revolution”, so I assumed that was the case.

Someone asked the same question in the community group chat. Seems like the UI for Keet is closed atm, the rest is open.

When an LLM fabricates a falsehood, that is not a malfunction at all. The machine is doing exactly what it has been designed to do: guess, and sound confident while doing it.

When LLMs get things wrong they aren’t hallucinating. They are bullshitting.

source: https://thebullshitmachines.com/lesson-2-the-nature-of-bullshit/index.html

Cool! Out of curiosity, what was the trigger and/or motivation to make the switch?