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  • moriquende@lemmy.worldtoScience Memes@mander.xyzPirates are Popular
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    4 days ago

    Did you read the article? They’re using your private photos from your camera roll. It is an actual example of what I said. The part I mentioned about public photos was of previously posted photos on Facebook. Please read the article otherwise don’t ask for it.

    Well, I’m replying to what you’re asking and arguing about, as you can tell if you reread our thread. I care about both privacy and intellect property. Shouldn’t be that hard to grasp. Also, you’ve just been asking questions and assuming my point of view without ever stating your own stance. Do you believe it’s fine for AI companies to use your personal data and your intellect property to train models they’ll profit from without your consent?

    If you want to resort to ad hominem we can say good day and move on, that’s not the point of discussing things here. At least not for me. If you’d like to answer my question about what is contradictory about enforcing wealth taxes and protecting IP at the same time, I’m all ears.



  • AI companies are training models on photos and texts posted only for your friends to see in their networks, and worse, also on e-mails, personal images people are backing up, etc. That’s private information. It shouldn’t be used for training models.

    With public information that everyone can see it’s from my point of view a gray area. If a magazine takes a public photo and uses it to sell copies, they’re stealing from the artist. But if they take that same photo and use it to train and sell an AI model, it’s a difficult situation to assess. I think our best approach so far is to respect the author’s wishes if they explicitly want to opt out. And yes of course I believe in intellectual property and copyright, if that was your question. They’re there for a reason, and they not only benefit big corporations but also small and independent artists and content creators.


  • Not sure why you think that but I don’t, I have strong feelings on personal privacy.

    I believe you’re constantly trying to steer the conversation into “you and everyone who opposes unethical AI model training only want data owners to get paid”, but it’s not how it is. I want to prevent AI corporations from stealing. It’s a big difference.



  • Inequality is fine as long as it isn’t extreme. You can have limits on inequality by implementing rules. In my opinion it’s about finding a balance where neither the richest nor the poorest person strays too far from the median, otherwise you start having trouble and move slowly towards an oligarchy that’ll end in violence and suffering eventually.


  • I’m on Lemmy everyday and haven’t come across any thread where vast numbers of people are cheering for big companies in any capacity. Of course you’ll probably have some who just want to stick it in the arse to AI companies and don’t think two steps further, but I don’t believe that’s anywhere close to a significant number of people.



  • You put those words in my mouth, I never said I believe that. I’ve been saying that each person owns their data and have the right to decide what it can be used for.

    It’s a separate discussion but: that rich people own most of the assets has a lot to do with the fact they steal and use stolen resources to appropriate more resources. It’s parasitic and needs to stop.




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    5 days ago

    Assuming you’re right, it’s still not rent-seeking. If I believe that AI companies should be made liable for breaking copyright, I’m not personally receiving any monetary benefit. Where’s my rent?

    It’s about principle. It’s unfair that a company can steal data and profit from it. Simple as that.