What’s really your question here? This is all over the place. I feel like you’re upset about this, which is totally valid and I feel you, but it’s making it hard to understand exactly where you’re coming from.

no racism

white af family is the only visible race

Yeahhhh no fucking thanks.

Funny, I’ve heard it before as well and watched this time for the video. Listening on just the phone’s speaker and it sounded way better than I expected. So this version has been remastered for shit speakers. Interesting.

Edit: first listen was on a full size stereo. (Sounds fucking awesome btw)

“in some cases” yeah you’re talking about a tiny percentage here, just the ones at the top. Why? Why do some sports players get paid so much? Why do some movie stars get paid so much? Society places incredibly high value on appearances. You’re free to disagree on a personal level (as do I, the beauty culture is horrendous) but it’s important to realize the reality of how most people think.

As for the devs, people are often broke. Years ago, the reason I first learned about open source was looking for free alternatives to word, when I found libreoffice. I had absolutely no money to spare at the time. These days, I’m in the hole again. But I give when I’m able. I try to give proportionally to my use of whatever it is, that feels fair. I make bug reports with needed relevant info, I’m learning c++ for myself but also to one day make contributions of my own.

Open source being discovered as a no-cost alternative to paid software makes it difficult to fet funding, even though that’s a pillar of what makes it so great. Bit of a paradox.

I feel your pain. The really good ones plan for this, some pop up immediately when you scroll up and that sucks. The proper thing to do (imo) is to wait for the user to scroll 80% of the viewport back up, only then letting it begin to slide in, and have it slide in at a rate 1/2 of the page scroll. I do like having it easily available, but it should feel like it’s trying to stay out of the way.

Right, if we’re talking about “good” in regards to speed then you’re correct. But if we’re talking about discerning intent, seriously? I find it hard to believe you’re speaking in good faith and without bias yourself here. Disguising intent is the leading method to ‘jailbreak’ an LLM. Half the time at least, trolls are attempting to disguise their intent (with varying degrees of success). So that would be a solid failure at worst, or miss swaths of trolls at best.

I don’t want to engage with someone like that either, but I care about not skipping over the people on the fringes of behavior, people who don’t just regurgitate an echo chamber. This task might not require 100% accuracy but I personally wouldn’t be satisfied with anything less than 99.9%.

I think using something like what we’ve been talking about is very very very far off in the future for me, if I were to ever do so at all. This conversation has made me realize that.

The “win” here likely refers to that of a moral or ethical one. Thanks for helping prove the point.

Not obvious. You’re right, there is no magic in this technology, and you clearly don’t understand how it works.

There is not a single LLM currently available that is able to consistently provide a correct or workable solution when faced with a semi complex word problem that’s able to be contained in one paragraph. They may nail it on occasion but they cannot do it consistently. The “problem” of figuring out if someone is a bit eccentric, has poor social skills, is actively trolling, only trolls sometimes, or any combination of the above, is orders of magnitude higher than that. (edit:) To say an LLM is capable of that kind of logical determination is completely ignoring the evidence to the contrary.

That… doesn’t answer the question. How do you assert that the base model you download and run doesn’t have a bias one way or the other?

Yeah but how would you trust that the LLM isn’t biased, or the company that licenses and puts it in a browser extension isn’t either? I don’t know.

I’m asking because I like the idea, it’s a good one.

I think you make a fair point here, partially. However, Marlboro could also advertise on snapchat if they wanted. Now there’s no doubt something like that would catch massive eyes, landing them in hot enough water to probably change the law around it. If Marlboro leadership saw Juul as a threat, that would make sense to do. They lose a pittance in advertising and court fees, and cut off a competitor from an advertising stream.

But they’re not a threat, they’re an asset. Altria, the parent company of Philip Morris and NJOY, has a 35% stake in Juul. Altria is incentivized to keep their piles of shit separate.

Vaping has the potential to be healthier than cigarettes, socially and physically. But not when it’s almost entirely controlled by companies that have a history of marketing to children. It’s physically healthier sure, but only 107 countries have laws regulating the age for vaping, vs 188 for cigarettes. The e-waste factor is also huge, something that a lot of people who vape choose to ignore and I wish they couldn’t. I vape myself, have for years, and it’s a shit state of affairs with how popular disposables are. But I don’t know what the realistic solution is. People are going to use tobacco products in a dystopia.

Oh, the horrors.

Bonzibuddy.

Advertising to children is significantly more tightly regulated, for the very reason that they’re so damn thirsty for it.

Yes and no. I like certain stars, not because of how they look though, it’s because of how they act. Mike Adriano, Bryan Gozzling, Alex Adams because of how they handle the girls on camera, various girls because of their enthusiasm or just the way they act. But I don’t limit myself to them, I look for plenty of random shit. I just know if one of my faves are in it, it’s probably going to be a good time.

As a smaller guy with a slightly feminine appearance (that I try to lean away from but how much can I do), I also fear men I don’t know (bad experiences) and wish that somehow I could choose too. But any sort of ‘qualified selection’ would guarantee someone malicious slips through eventually, and that’s obviously not worth it. I’m not going to let jealousy and whataboutism get in the way of progress. On that note, I do worry slightly about how they’re verifying gender? If it’s by DL, this will affect trans folks in some states much more than others. If it’s not, then verification becomes a very big question mark.

I also can’t help but notice all the language is very passive, on one hand it makes sense they wouldn’t be able to guarantee anything but at the same time I find it so hard to trust passive language from any tech company, they’ve all abused my good faith of it into the ground. But I digress.

No flak just thoughts, concerns notwithstanding this is good to see overall. I’m sure Lyft will have to deploy something equivalent to stay competetive.

Seconding this. Dropout listens to feedback. They’ve shown enough grace in the past for me to assume it’s not intentional - there’s a good chance the storefront didn’t even operate like that when they set it up. It’s a textbook enshittification pattern. If I were them, I’d want to know.

Don’t be too hard on yourself, they definitely put money and effort into influencing opinions in all the subversive ways they can manage. But also, let this be a lesson to always check alternatives and their reason for existing. I consider it part of best practices.

Never been to the east coast (that’s a goal for sure though), but I totally get that. It’s why I like driving the areas surrounding LA. People are more decisive while driving than other states up the coast. The California driver is more likely to be an asshole, yes, but one who knows what’s happening around them, makes a decision, and stick to it. My home state drives (ha) me insane with the amount of people who just seem totally checked out, either fiddling around on a cell phone or some other bullshit that shouldn’t be done while driving.

So I need to preemptively wear anti facial recognition makeup if ever called for jury duty. Gotcha.

It seems somewhat realistic to expect an actual punishment for this, even if not properly scaled. It’s worth fighting for. But being prepared alongside that is important.

My initial reaction is to be thankful; now the unknown thousands of people who don’t see the toxicity of their own dependence can begin to be free. The subsequent models seem to be less prone to inducing that kind of deep infatuation.

But then I realize most of them will probably never recover, as long as this technology persists. The base model will be wrapped in an infinite number of seductive agents sold in an app, with a subscription, as a loving companion. Capitalism smells blood in the water. If I was a hedge fund manager witnessing the birth of a new market demographic with a lifelong addiction that possibly hooks harder than cigarettes, which is not federally regulated, and won’t be for the forseeable future; I would be foaming at the mouth with this opening in the market.