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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 6 months ago

Teenagers plan to flee as Kyiv faces pressure to call up the young

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Teenagers plan to flee as Kyiv faces pressure to call up the young

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 6 months ago
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The United States and Nato want President Zelensky to lower the age of conscription from 25, prompting some young people to leave Ukraine — perhaps for ever
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  • theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.worksBanned
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    Sure seems like they’re winning.

    • sexy_peach@feddit.org
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      They’re not winning. They’re trying to prevent the worst.

      • MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml
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        The worst would be getting a bunch more people killed and then still losing

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        Which would be?

        • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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          Hm teenage pregnancy and vaping I guess?

          • CyberMonkey404@lemmy.ml
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            Reasonably certain those are already present in Ukraine

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          Preventing the complete loss of their sovereignty—essentially preserving their nation in the face of aggression?

          • theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.worksBanned
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            …so they should’ve taken the first peace deal in 2014 before Russia backed the Republics of donetsk and luhansk in their uprising?

            • sexy_peach@feddit.org
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              Who guarantees that they get peace in return?

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                No one can ever guarantee anything, but Russia wouldn’t fuck with them if there’s an actual deal and they abide by it instead of violating it.

                • catloaf@lemm.eebanned_from_community_badge
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                  That’s a real big if, and history indicates it would be unlikely.

                • sexy_peach@feddit.org
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                  I understand the Ukrainians mistrust.

            • B0rax@feddit.org
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              Let’s not forget who is attacking and who is defending…

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                Let’s not forget who broke their treaty precipitating the attack.

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              You give up a finger, russians have always taken the whole arm.

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          Being under russian occupation.

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            I’m pretty sure being kidnapped off the streets and marched to front lines to die is worse, but okay.

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