don’t give me the it’s never too late bs. Life happens, people have jobs, debts and rent to pay.

Going back to school when you’re employed means debt, earning way less or nothing during your bachelor or master, stress, opportunities you’re not aware of because you’re simply not at your workplace anymore, unpaid overtime during those 2 to 3 years… the money you lose is more than what the bachelor / accreditation costs.

When does it start being a stupid idea? Is it when you’re 30? 40? 50?

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    Depends what you want. It’s never late to pursue an academic interest. But realistically if you’re going back to school to change careers, probably from 35 up it starts being hard to justify. If you just want to go to school to supplement your current skills, it’s never too late.

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    At what age is it stupid to start exercising?

    Schooling is always a sacrifice of your time, energy, and money; it’s only “stupid” if the reward isn’t worth the risk. Age isn’t a part of that equation.

    If you really want to answer this question for yourself, pick a goal and figure out a way to get it. Make a plan. How much money do you need? Can you save up before? Pick up extra shifts, get a second job.

    If you decide it’s worth it, do everything you can to make it happen. Otherwise you’re just making excuses for yourself.

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        I’ve been through surgically induced menopause and I’m fine? It’s a bit baffling and honestly misogynistic to suggest that basically any woman from middle age onwards is incapable of doing a degree. I don’t think menopause made me stupider.

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    It’s got nothing to do with age. As you pointed out there are financial reasons where you might not be able to. But that’s realy the only hurdle. And there are plenty of ways to clear it.

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    It’s never too late. If you’re 110 you might not make it to graduation though.

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    I went to school with quite a few mature students. They were all great classmates.

    Lots of seniors go because they want edification. Never a stupid idea.

    Now if you are asking financially, that depends on the time and cost of the program and the anticipated market for that kind of work. Do the math. Cost of school (tuition, books, materials and living expenses x number of years of the program) - opportunity cost of not working your current gig during those years, + the estimated differential of what you reasonably think you could make for the remainder of your new career before retirement.

    Every program, job market and tuition support is different. Do the math with your own local info.

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    depends why you are attending school. If it’s to get a piece of paper, likely will not affect you later in life. if it’s just to learn, walk in and audit a class. I have never said no to people auditing my lectures.

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    Never. Not what you want to hear,but hear me out. Because if it safes your sanity it is worth it.

    • I got my apprenticeship as a paramedic first and then went back to school to get my full A-Levels. Specialized school we have here,thankfully for these cases. The oldest one of my classmates was 52.

    • I studied economics with someone who was 55 and basically had already done the job we all wanted when we graduate for 25 years. He did so so he finally would get a more comprehensive background and maybe get up the ladder once more. (Which according to linked in he did)

    • I currently do another master (in a distant education setting,though) simply out of interest in the field and to broaden my CV. And you know what? I am 25 years in my field and still learned a fuckton of things, got a better network, love the research field AND got so much better at my job AND found a lot of opportunities.

    • An former paramedic trainee of mine was almost 50 when he started paramedic training. He was a C level executive before and at one point had enough - he changed careers so he would not get even more depressed and is now very happy with it. And I had multiple people do that in my bubble.

    Now,from my current perspective: Was it stressful? Fuck yeah. I literally cried sometimes. Was it a tough time financially? Fuck yeah. I am self employed/have a small company and I had month were making ends meet was really though due to the added expenses and the lost revenue. But it still was worth it. Because: For what it’s worth we all gonna need to work till 70+x anyway to afford retirement. And that’s a long time.

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      Because: For what it’s worth we all gonna need to work till 70+x anyway to afford retirement. And that’s a long time

      Now that sounds really depressing. Workworkwork and when you’re finally free, you’re too old to really enjoy it all. I retired in my 20s, and now, 30yrs later I still don’t have enough time in a day to enjoy all hobbies. I couldn’t imagine having to wait until I’m 70. An unfair and shitty system 😞

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          Nah, family’s dead and was also poor. I was lucky to be an IT-guy when the net started and had my company until i got bored. As long as i have food and can support my hobbies, I don’t need much anyway :)

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    It is never too late to go back is not bullshit.

    people have jobs, debts and rent to pay.

    I had all of the above and a family to support and I went back to school and got my masters degree.

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      OP is saying at some point it financially doesn’t pencil out. Like, if I make x now, spend y to get a degree, and then make z, about when does it stop making sense to spend y? Obviously this depends on a lot of things but the answer is definitely not never. I suspect they are trying to get a general sense of around when that would be because they don’t know the exact values of x y and z.

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    It depends on if you’re going back to school for career reasons or personal enrichment. For the latter it really is never too late. For your career, though, too late will depend on when you’re hoping to retire, when you’ll complete the extra schooling, how much the school will cost, and how much more money you’ll expect to make with your new degree.

    Without any info, assuming you want to retire around 65, I would think it would be normal to want to use your new degree for at least ten years, so whatever schooling you’d want to do you would want to be finishing by the time you’re 55. But those other variables come into play. If you’re borrowing $100,000 to pay for med school, your cutoff date will probably be earlier because it will take a longer time to pay off the student loans. On the flip side, if you’re paying $5-10,000 for a 6-month programming boot camp that will boost your income by $10-20,000/year then you might even consider doing that at age 60, especially if you’re already bringing a computer science background where your experience and new skills will keep you in high demand.

    There’s not really a one-size-fits-all answer to this question.

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    It depends upon the job you are pursuing. I went back to school at 35 to pursue a trade in HVAC. I don’t recommend doing that much later. I ran into a lot of age discrimination when attempting to find a job.