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      What stops you from doing the same to them. This is the funniest shit. Why don’t we work. This is how deep they go and we’re like “I’m tired I’m so sweepy guys why can’t the other swide jus pway nice”

      pirate some photo shop. Drink a couple beers and fucking troll. What happened to the left being comedians and artists. Too busy selling feet pics?

      Let’s fucking go.

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        There’s no winning against them fighting fire with fire. They’re masters of this stuff. Of double speak, hypocrisy, avoiding accountability, distraction, and so forth. I don’t want to fight just to fight. I want to fight to win.

        I agree with you that a fight must be fought. But, maximizing efficiency, what exactly is the fight?

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    After the advent of DNA testing, many anthropologists and archeologists were embarrassed because skeletal remains were missexed.

    Even my A&P textbook had this garbage in it. It claimed racial difference in the skull and sex difference in the Hip bones. But it’s bullshit. The most reliable way to sex a skeleton is with DNA.

    ‘The Mismeasure of Man’ by Gould is a fascinating history of bio-determinism and psudoscientific attempt to measure it.

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      Archaeologist here, maybe it’s just new wave training but widely taught that it’s not an easy task to sex skeletons on morphology alone.

      Sure some features appear more commonly amongst men and some more commonly amongst women, but there is considerable overlap.

      Pelvis are generally identifiable, but the bio-archaeologists I know prefer to say the skeleton displays female characteristics without providing a definitive biological sex. They have to have some great evidence before claiming for certain.

      Also fun fact, you can’t measure this morphology when there’s still skin and muscle fucking attached.

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      many anthropologists and archeologists were embarrassed because skeletal remains were missexed.

      I mean I get it. Impossible to tell without skeletal boobs.

    • Complete tangent- I’m not up on the new lingo, is sex your presentation to the world, whether you’re xx or xy, or something else? Because I’ve been seeing quite a bit of conflation between sex and gender lately and it’s left me confused.

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        Typically, “sex” is used in reference to biological characteristics, and “gender” to sociological ones.

        • So an intersex person might one day discover that their gender doesn’t reflect their sex, but their sex has never actually changed, right? Or if someone were to receive full and adequately administered treatment for their gender dysphoria, their sex wouldn’t change? Just trying to completely peg down any edge cases.

          To be clear, humans should be allowed to live comfortably in their own skin. Not jaqing off, just trying to become fully informed.

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            An intersex person is typically assigned a gender at birth, but so is everyone else. Being intersex just means you aren’t biologically male or female (though I think this might also include people who have sex chromosomes that develop as though they were the other binary sex, but I’m not an expert). Most intersex people don’t typically know they are intersex, and thus they would count as cisgender so long as they identify as the gender they were assigned at birth and transgender if they do not. Thus, if someone had, say XY chromosomes, but was assigned female at birth, they would probably be cis if they identified as female.

            However, trans can be a bit of a self-identifying label, and thus someone in that situation might just as well consider themselves trans. There’s a lot of different definitions for trans. Many non-binary people would consider themselves trans since they don’t identify as their assigned gender at birth.

            Long story short, gender is complicated. Sex doesn’t change (put a couple asterisks here), but gender is super flexible (also asterisks here.)

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            Well intersex could be either, both or none. Some are born with something that looks like a vagina and has balls inside of them so they think they are biologically a woman until they try to have kids and it isn’t possible or are together with someone who knows what a vagina “should” look like or it looks kind of like a penis but everyone is a bit unsure. It is a big grey zone, I don’t know if you can even call them biologically anything, if biologically means having one type of genitals. I am not sure if bilogical means anything either way (for intersex). It depends what you want to actually know, if you want kids then no, no biologically kids. But that could be true for someone who is what you would call biologically man or woman any ways.

            So yeah one day they may discover they can’t have kids or that they also have balls inside of them, or they have no balls or they have a mix of both or none. Before (and still in some countries) did the parents pick a gender and then a lot of surgery happened to make it look like a typical penis or vagina.

            But it is an interesting topic, what is even sex? What do you wish to actually know? Because if it is about kids then sex doesn’t matter instead it would be better to just ask “can you produce x” ( depending on what you produce). Not everyone who is “biologically” can produce what you need anyways. I know many who needed to get a sperm or egg donator (or both) to have kids.

            • What do you wish to actually know?

              The definition of sex, and where it bleeds into gender or doesn’t. I felt like I had a complete understanding of the difference between sex and gender, but there were a few months, a while back, where the terms were used interchangeably and I began to subtly question whether I actually understood them.

              Now, several months later, I thought to ask in a relatively neutral space. You guys confirmed that I just happened to see many people misusing words for a bit, which I appreciate.

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                People play real fast and loose with these terms.

                My advice is to do what you’re doing here, which is learn… But to remember to meet people where they’re at.

                By these definitions, with sex relating to biological things, you might be tempted to tell someone they can’t just “decide” their sex, by this definition. Don’t do it.

                Not saying you would, but resist the urge to get into a semantic argument. Just ask the specific people what they mean by these words when they say them, and roll with it. Prioritize understanding over being understood.

                This advice goes for anything, but this is a particularly spicy meatball.

                • This is excellent advice that I wish I could immediately impart into my being. You’ve described alchemy, as far as my technical but inarticulate ass goes. I hope to be able to do this in person some day.

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                Just to add to the excellent responses, even “biological sex” may be complicated, because you can argue based on different criteria. At birth, genitalia is a relatively accessible and unintrusive way to sex humans, but even at birth other criteria may be available, like a chromosomal analysis. There are also genetic tests, which are closely related to chromosomal sexing, but are not the same. Also, from embryogenic and hormonal evidence you could try to make your case. Most people would comply with all of those, but some people don’t.

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                  “biological sex” may be complicated

                  Absolutely, and the level of hair splitting you can get into is maddening. It almost seems worth discarding the word entirely, in the world’s current state, as it relates to people.

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      Inside of you there are two wolves. One looks like a fox with owl makeup and the other like a puck-nosed shepherd dog with strabism.

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      Yeah, those are clearly cartoon skulls on each side

      Are they saying that the new pope is Elasticmom from The Incredibles?

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    I’m surprised magas care so much about the pope considering they don’t follow any christian morals or tenets.

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      Just as “extremists” from other religion claiming they belong to it. We’re just less accustomed to seeing people claiming being chrisitans doing it. They obviously aren’t but as time will go on more and more christians will get criticized for being christians because “look what your fellow christians do!” Rings any bell? “But if Christians behave that way it’s because it’s rooted in their religion!”. And maybe it is… Who knows, but what these people do seem very non-christian.

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      It’s ragebait, American fascists have always hated Catholics. At least in part just because so many immigrants are Catholic.

      This ain’t new

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        Catholics and Protestants are both Christians, Catholicism is pretty unified in doctrine, and Protestants are a large group of very diverse denominations of Christianity. When I was forced to go to church, my pastor would often joke about Baptists forming new denominations over differing opinions on drape colors. Outside of those two groups, there are tons of other flavors of Christianity. Off the top of my head you’ve got Mormons, Greek Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, jehovas witnesses, and Oriental Orthodox

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          Greek Orthodox is actually just a sub-category of Eastern Orthodox for churches that use Greek in official proceedings. Eastern Orthodox has many different churches, all considered equal, split along language, regional, or national borders.

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    Ah, yes, the bastion of radical progressivism and LGBTQ+ rights, the… Catholic Church?

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      When every single pope looks like a left-wing extremist to you, you may have strayed too far to the right.

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    The hilarious thing about all these fascist trying to claim that the new Pope is woke is that he’s more conservative than Francis.

    Prevost opposes the ordination of women to the diaconate, arguing it “doesn’t necessarily solve a problem” and could create new issues.[106]

    Prevost opposes euthanasia, abortion, and the death penalty.

    Prevost opposed the inclusion of “gender ideology” in Peruvian school curricula, stating it promotes “genders that don’t exist”.[81][121] In 2012, he criticized popular culture’s sympathy for the “homosexual lifestyle” and same-sex families.[122] Prevost expressed reservations about “sympathy for beliefs and practices that contradict the gospel”

    Just because he doesn’t hate brown people and doesn’t like trump they’re doing trans phrenology on him lol.

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    I’m sad that I live in a world where people think they need the word “transvestigate.”